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Even if you can't have a birth tub, try the shower. That's usually an option at least.

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Have you considered hiring a doula? Ours had tons of resources. Also, a friend loaned me her Bradley books. In truth, we didn't use much of our training; we just went with what worked and were lucky enough that it went as we'd hoped. But having all that reading and planning to back me up gave me a mental boost.
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I have been to the library for books twice. They are checked out and past due I have hypnobabies. I am 30 weeks soon and need to start it. I have just been so stressed out with everything (not just this). By the time I get a few free mins at night to open the books I'm out!
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Re: hoping to have a natural birth...what materials should I look into?

Do you have the option of using a TENs unit? My midwife had one for me to use (I had my first baby at home and am planning a homebirth for my second - I'm 31 weeks), and it really helped me deal with the contractions. I plan on using it again for this next labor. If your doctor or midwife doesn't have one for you to use, you might be able to rent. The one I used was called the Elle Tens Machine.
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Do you have the option of using a TENs unit? My midwife had one for me to use (I had my first baby at home and am planning a homebirth for my second - I'm 31 weeks), and it really helped me deal with the contractions. I plan on using it again for this next labor. If your doctor or midwife doesn't have one for you to use, you might be able to rent. The one I used was called the Elle Tens Machine.
Never heard of it what is it?
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A tens machine uses electrical impulses to stimulate the nerves and muscles in your abdomen or back, I believe, and basically distract your nerves from sending pain signals.

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From the Banned From Babyshowers Blog.

Hospital Nurses and Natural Birth
A few weeks ago, I was in the emergency room with my son, thinking he had a staph infection. Long story short, he didn't. But it was an eventful night, to say the least. I heard a nurse on the phone with a doctor, panicked, as a baby boy was bleeding profusely from a circumcision-gone-wrong (I don't know what happened - he was still bleeding when we left) and was quite traumatized. I also heard a room full of nurses talking about labor and birth. I posted a few of the things on my BFBS Facebook page I heard (which were quite crazy if you asked me), and one of my former students-turning-Birth-Boot-Camp-Instructor, who happens to be a nurse, asked if she could write a blog post for Banned From Baby Showers about why nurses know so little about birth. How could I refuse? Thank you, Shazia, for helping us understand, not only the situation, but how we can improve the current state of affairs.


I have heard many stories from moms about a nurse being unsupportive and discouraging of natural birth. Perhaps you may have had one of these nurses attend your labor. I am a registered nurse and even I encountered a less than helpful nurse during the birth of my son at a local hospital. Nurses are often very knowledgeable and supportive of evidence-based practices in other specialties. If natural birth is evidenced to be the best option for achieving optimal outcomes for both mom and baby, why are some nurses unsupportive and even discouraging of natural birth? I hope to answer that question from a nurse’s perspective in this post.
A nurse’s knowledge base comes from their education and their experiences. To help me write this post, I polled several other nurses who work in various specialties and attended different nursing schools. I have my BSN from the University of Texas at Arlington. I went through a wonderful nursing program that consisted of 120 course hours. Birth was discussed in one 4 hour course. The course was a general women’s health course that covered pregnancy, birth, and the neonatal period. I was blessed to be taught by a Clinical Nurse Specialist who had homebirthed her own children and a Certified Nurse Midwife.
Not every nurse was so lucky during their nursing education. Some nurses that I polled stated that birth was such a small part of their nursing curriculum that they learned very little about birth. Some nurses said that birth was discussed more in depth, but comparing common maternity practices in the United States and evidence-based maternity practices were not part of the discussion. Not teaching evidence-based practices seems ridiculous to someone outside of nursing, but nursing schools in the United States are preparing nurses to work in healthcare settings in the United States. Labor and delivery nurses attend hospital births. Our hospitals do not routinely practice evidence-based maternity care. Nurses in the United States are expected to assist with planned cesarean sections, elective inductions, epidural anesthesia, and other medical interventions in birth. Unfortunately, that is what hospital birth looks like in our country. Natural birth that is intervention and medication free is rare, and most happen out of the hospital. Many labor and delivery nurses, much like obstetricians, have never observed a natural birth. In order to prepare a nurse for the patients and procedures she would encounter on a labor and delivery unit, the natural birth process is not always a priority for educational institutions.
I also polled a few nurses who work in labor and delivery. Their input was insightful. They verified that natural, intervention free birth was a rare occurrence on their labor and delivery units. They stated many moms came in to the hospital with a birth plan to have no pain medication and limit medical interventions. However, the majority had done NO preparation for their birth, other than typing out a birth plan. They said most of their coworkers view the birth plan as a joke, because most of the moms who write them end up asking for everything they wrote they did not want. One of my professors in nursing school said that you can plan all pregnancy long, but it means nothing if you don’t prepare. If you don’t take the time to prepare, you might as well forget the planning too. It’s like writing down that you are going to make an A on the test, but never actually studying for it.
When a mother is not prepared for birth, but seeks a natural birth, the demands of their nurse are drastically increased. Nursing units are often understaffed and nurses are overworked. There is a tremendous demand on a nurse when a mother is not prepared for birth, a father is not prepared to be a birth coach, and a doula isn’t present to assist mom throughout the birth process. This can create animosity towards the patients that seek a natural birth, but due to lack of preparation rely on their nurse for all of their needs during labor. Even though more women are asking for a natural birth in the hospital, many still end up with unnecessary medical intervention due to their lack of being informed and prepared. Unfortunately, this means that even labor and delivery nurses lack experience in the natural birth process, because the majority of patients are not giving birth naturally. They also doubt the ability for women to birth naturally, because they see many unsuccessful attempts. When a well-prepared and well-informed mom comes in to the hospital, they are often faced with judgment and animosity because they are categorized with the moms who aren’t prepared and informed. They assume that they will be unsuccessful also.
What can we do about this and how can we ensure that women having a hospital birth have supportive nursing staff? We can demand evidence-based practices. We can choose doctors and hospitals that have practices in place to support the natural birth process. If we demand better care during our birth and evidence-based practices, we can work towards a society where medical staff at hospitals have seen natural birth and are experienced assisting moms who wish to avoid medical interventions and are well-prepared to do so. If we continue to blindly follow bad medical advice and fail to advocate for ourselves, hospitals will continue to utilize their policies that inhibit mothers from achieving the type of birth they want. The more we demand for better births, the more experience nurses and other hospital staff will have with natural birth.
If we can change the way women choose to birth and prepare them well, we can change the way our hospitals handle birthing women. If more moms educate themselves and prepare for an intervention free birth, we can ensure that our labor and delivery nurses gain experience with the natural birth process. If we change the norm of birth in our society, the nursing schools in our area will also have to change their way of teaching to prepare nurses who want to go into labor and delivery to effectively provide care to a birthing mom.
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A tens machine uses electrical impulses to stimulate the nerves and muscles in your abdomen or back, I believe, and basically distract your nerves from sending pain signals.
Yup that's its. Worked well for me.
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hypnobirthing!!! I am so glad I took the class and read the book with my first. Both of my births have been natural hospital water births. I truly did breath my babies down until my body took over as suggested. No push coaching! This time around, I envisioned the areas of my body where I was in pain from labor in a box and didn't let that sensation affect the rest of my body (like going into panic or tensing up) and I would vocalize to myself that it was "just right there" when the contractions were really intense.
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Have you considered hiring a doula? Ours had tons of resources. Also, a friend loaned me her Bradley books. In truth, we didn't use much of our training; we just went with what worked and were lucky enough that it went as we'd hoped. But having all that reading and planning to back me up gave me a mental boost.
A doula is like the wakling-talking-breathing childbirth education class, as well as an interpreter when the medical lingo starts flying. She is also familiar with the nomal emotional and physical changes a mama goes through. And she suppots mom and dad, not just mom. This allows dad to participate at the level he is comfortable at.

I wouldn't give birth without one .
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I took a hypnobirthing class and used it with my first baby (October 15th, 2012). It was amazing. It really helped me to focus and concentrate and deal with the pain, that was quite manageable with these techniques. It also helped that I waited to go the hospital until I was about 4 minutes a part too, so the hospital did not have time to encourage me to do anything else. It is essential your husband, partner, or someone who will be with you at birth attend this class. They will help serve as your advocates in the hospital, help you do the hypnobirthing techniques.

You will want some time to practice the techniques after the class. I had an extremely quick labor...between labor pains starting and my son being birthed was only a short 4 hours.

In preparation for the birth I spoke with my doctors and let them know that I was interested in a natural birth and that these were the things I was looking for, modifying the birth preferences sheet I received from the hypnobirthing technique. If I had been in labor longer, I would have definitely planned to use a birthing tub or shower which I hear is a really good natural child birth pain management technique. My doctor wouldn't let me give birth in the tub, but would let me labor in it. I also had to discuss with them about wanting to walk around and use different positions. They were not use to this, but willing to give it a try as long as it did not hurt the baby or me.

I also was doing a weekly pre-natal yoga class, which I think really helped my flexibility and strength to prepare for labor. My doctor and nurses, said they were absolutely amazed at my labor, never seen a natural child birth quite so focused and quiet. It wasn't pain free for sure, but definitely manageable with these techniques. It obviously helped big time, that I had a short labor.
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