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Old 07-08-2013, 03:46 PM   #21
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Re: Vaccine links

Was looking at this and found it useful - I know most people that are pro-deadly toxin don't care to see this information, but I find it valuable.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Activities/vaers.html

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Approximately 30,000 VAERS reports are filed annually, with 10-15% classified as serious (resulting in permanent disability, hospitalization, life-threatening illnesses or death).

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Old 07-29-2013, 06:31 PM   #22
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Was looking at this and found it useful - I know most people that are pro-deadly toxin don't care to see this information, but I find it valuable.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Activities/vaers.html

I don't have a problem with the information in the link you provided. However, it is not the full story. Just because something is reported to VAERS does not mean that the event was caused by a vaccine -- or even that it happened at all. I could go on that website right now and claim that my child had an MMR vaccine and contracted Anthrax as a result. Very few reports are followed up on and there is little to confirm whether a report is actually related to the vaccine.

Keep in mind that when a child has a vaccine and then has XYZ happen in the next couple of days, there are any number of other things that that child likely did in that same timeframe -- they probably road in a car, drank milk or other substance, wore clothes, etc. All a report (assuming it isn't an entirely false report) does is establish a correlation in time between an event and a vaccine.

If you continued to quote from the link you provided, this is from the same page:

When evaluating data from VAERS, it is important to note that for any reported event, no cause-and-effect relationship has been established. VAERS receives reports on all potential associations between vaccines and adverse events. Therefore, VAERS collects data on any adverse event following vaccination, be it coincidental or truly caused by a vaccine. The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that vaccine caused the event.
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Old 08-27-2013, 07:01 PM   #23
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most of the links in the original thread are no longer active (except the most recent ones)...I think its time that a new thread was started so that you don't have to spend time sifting through bad links...there's also new information that has come out since the original thread was started and I feel like old information is bad information if you don't know the rest of the story.
But just posting the new info is still only showing one side. Both sides need to be shown.

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Sorry, I just don't see why he shouldn't make money from it. He's a professional with many degrees, spent 25 years developing the rotavirus vax. Would you work for free? Especially after years of schooling? Of course he makes money, it's his job. I don't see how it discredits him, in the least.
Agreed! A man shouldn't be discredited just because he makes money from something. For a man to spend years of his life developing something he is gonna have to really believe in it. It's hard to not encourage people to see your side when you feel that strongly about something.

Whenever I research something I remember that their "facts" come from their viewpoint, from their beliefs.

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I don't have a problem with the information in the link you provided. However, it is not the full story. Just because something is reported to VAERS does not mean that the event was caused by a vaccine -- or even that it happened at all. I could go on that website right now and claim that my child had an MMR vaccine and contracted Anthrax as a result. Very few reports are followed up on and there is little to confirm whether a report is actually related to the vaccine.

Keep in mind that when a child has a vaccine and then has XYZ happen in the next couple of days, there are any number of other things that that child likely did in that same timeframe -- they probably road in a car, drank milk or other substance, wore clothes, etc. All a report (assuming it isn't an entirely false report) does is establish a correlation in time between an event and a vaccine.

If you continued to quote from the link you provided, this is from the same page:

When evaluating data from VAERS, it is important to note that for any reported event, no cause-and-effect relationship has been established. VAERS receives reports on all potential associations between vaccines and adverse events. Therefore, VAERS collects data on any adverse event following vaccination, be it coincidental or truly caused by a vaccine. The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that vaccine caused the event.
Fear should never be a deciding factor, on the other hand when I'm scared of something or have a weird feeling about something I usually do more research to see the if there is a link or not. I never just discount "coincidences" cause someone else hasn't scientifically documented it yet. Then again I kind of enjoy researching things for myself, it's kind of fun
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Old 08-27-2013, 08:44 PM   #24
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Re: Vaccine links

Here are a list of links that were just added to the other thread in January. It is always helpful if the OP is willing to add the new links to their original post so all the info is in one place without people having to dig thru the whole thread. It's also helpful if they are deleted if it is brought to your attention that a link no longer works. These are just things I've seen some people do over the years and it has been most helpful.

Challenging Vaccine Theory:
http://icpa4kids.org/Wellness-Articl...-immunity.html

Vaccine Adverse Effects Reporting System Database:
http://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/index.php

Vaccine Ingredients:
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pin...nt-table-2.pdf

List of All Vaccine Ingredients and Safety Analyses:
http://www.novaccine.com/vaccine-ingredients/

Vaccine Package Inserts:
http://www.immunize.org/packageinserts/
Tripedia insert (ommitted from previous link. lists SIDS and autism as potential adverse reactions.) http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Biologi.../UCM101580.pdf

Brain Blood Barrier and MSG:
http://www.truthinlabeling.org/obesityepidemic.html

Aluminum:
http://www.nvic.org/doctors-corner/A...gredients.aspx

Blood Brain Barrier and Aluminum:
http://student.biology.arizona.edu/ad/bbb.html

Aluminum and Motor Degeneration:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...ihms171746.pdf

Health Effects of Mercury :
http://orf.od.nih.gov/Environmental+...lthHazards.htm

Mercury and the Blood Brain Barrier:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0909080318.htm

Health Effects of Formaldehyde:
http://www.health.state.mn.us/divs/e...rmaldehyde.pdf

Formaldehyde and the Blood Brain Barrier:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3779084

Debunking Herd Immunity:
http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.c...-vaccinations/

Vaccines and neurological issues, including autism:
"In acknowledging Hannah's injuries, the government said vaccines aggravated an unknown mitochondrial disorder Hannah had which didn't "cause" her autism, but "resulted" in it. It's unknown how many other children have similar undiagnosed mitochondrial disorder."http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20015982-10391695.html

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12145534

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9756729

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...#reference-sec
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21058170

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22099159

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21350943

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15764492

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22015705

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22015977

Vitamin C Treatment of Whooping Cough:
vaccinationcouncil.org/media/The-Vitamin-C-Treatment-of-Whooping-Cough.pdf

Treating Childhood Illnesses (Measles, Mumps, Rubella, Chicken Pox, Rotavirus, Flu)
http://www.vaccineriskawareness.com/...hood-Illnesses

Mumps Protective Effect Against Ovarian Cancer:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2951028/

Polio Facts:
“Up to 95% of all polio infections are inapparent or subclinical without symptoms. “
http://sprojects.mmi.mcgill.ca/tropm...o/symptoms.htm

Chicken Pox Vaccine Tied to Increase in Shingles:
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2003/10/prweb83848.htm

Prevnar Vaccine Linked to Superbugs:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20825107/#.UHSQ1RXA9v8

Pneumococcal Vaccine Did Not Decrease Incidence of Peumococcal Mningitis in France:
http://journals.lww.com/pidj/Abstrac...Before.18.aspx

Tetanus: Fact Vs. Fiction:
http://guggiedaly.blogspot.com/2010/...y-come-up.html

Naturally Acquired Immunity to Tetanus:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...00115-0275.pdf

Hib Vaccine & Type 1 Diabetes:
http://www.bmj.com//content/319/7217/1133.1

Flu Shots Not Beneficial:
http://www.lakelandtimes.com/main.as...rticleID=12400

Vaccine Laws & Exemptions By State:
http://www.vaclib.org/exemption.htm

Vaccine Manufacturers Given Immunity to Lawsuits:
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice...eme-Court-says

Advisers on Vaccines Often Have Conflicts:
“A new report finds that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention did a poor job of screening medical experts for financial conflicts when it hired them to advise the agency on vaccine safety, officials said Thursday.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/18/he...=4&ref=health&
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TYVM for posting. I don't know why people have a problem with a pro vaccine thread when an anti vaccine thread already exists and is stickied.
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Old 03-24-2014, 05:40 PM   #26
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Plain and simple: vaccines=poison and sickness and no vaccines=health and strong immune system. Don't vaccinate yourself, your children, or your pets...they're all bad!
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