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Old 05-22-2012, 06:52 AM   #11
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I second what most others have said- at this point pumping is probably going to stress you out more than it is worth. Keep nursing as much as possible and wait for your milk to come in before you start worrying. First time it took 5 days, the second time still 3 days.

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Old 05-23-2012, 04:09 AM   #12
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Thanks for all the help! I stopped the pumping it was just to much! She is started to wake in her own like clockwork every 3 hours and nursing on each side for 15//20 min! I am so happy, she seems to be getting to hang of it though my nipples are pretty sore I had those little rubber nipple shields for feeding cause I was starting to get damaged. Now I'm just hoping my nipples get stronger!!!
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Thanks for all the help! I stopped the pumping it was just to much! She is started to wake in her own like clockwork every 3 hours and nursing on each side for 15//20 min! I am so happy, she seems to be getting to hang of it though my nipples are pretty sore I had those little rubber nipple shields for feeding cause I was starting to get damaged. Now I'm just hoping my nipples get stronger!!!
Hey mama, it's less a matter of your nipples getting tougher than her latch getting better. A good latch should not hurt your nipples, and babies have to learn to latch properly with a wide, open mouth and their tongues down. For some it is more difficult to learn than others. Make sure the LC is helping you with her latch. If the LC is not helpful in this, find a new LC.
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Hey mama, it's less a matter of your nipples getting tougher than her latch getting better. A good latch should not hurt your nipples, and babies have to learn to latch properly with a wide, open mouth and their tongues down. For some it is more difficult to learn than others. Make sure the LC is helping you with her latch. If the LC is not helpful in this, find a new LC.
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Old 05-23-2012, 07:32 PM   #15
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Re: Scared shes not getting enough?

Also, an improper latch can result in baby not properly emptying the breast and that will affect your supply while getting established. If your nipples are hurting, blistered, bruised etc...then baby's latch is incorrect. I agree with PPs that if your LC isn't helping, find a new one. It's very important!
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Re: Scared shes not getting enough?

also, check to see if your baby can stick out her/his tongue. your baby may be tongue tied. 2 of mine were. and it caused pain and bleeding and sore nipples because the tongue was positioned wrong on the breast. ask the health nurse or Dr or Lactation consultant to look for you. If your baby is not able to properly nurse it will effect you supply. good luck!! let us know how things are going. make sure baby has a big wide open mouth. if it hurts, start again. do not contiune nursing on a sore breast. all this effort IS worth it the pain WILL go away.
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Hey mama, it's less a matter of your nipples getting tougher than her latch getting better. A good latch should not hurt your nipples, and babies have to learn to latch properly with a wide, open mouth and their tongues down. For some it is more difficult to learn than others. Make sure the LC is helping you with her latch. If the LC is not helpful in this, find a new LC.
Even if the baby's latch is fine, nipples can be sore in the first couple of weeks. If they don't look flat after the baby is unlatched and aren't getting blistered it could just be normal nipple pain. I had pain with both of mine for 2 weeks, but it was just soreness, not a latch issue.
I think it actually causes moms to stress out MORE because women are always saying "it's not supposed to hurt if you're doing it right!", but this is just not always true. I've read that it's more common for fair-skinned women to have soreness unrelated to latch difficulties.
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Even if the baby's latch is fine, nipples can be sore in the first couple of weeks. If they don't look flat after the baby is unlatched and aren't getting blistered it could just be normal nipple pain. I had pain with both of mine for 2 weeks, but it was just soreness, not a latch issue.
I think it actually causes moms to stress out MORE because women are always saying "it's not supposed to hurt if you're doing it right!", but this is just not always true. I've read that it's more common for fair-skinned women to have soreness unrelated to latch difficulties.
Yes, I agree, but damaged nipples (cracks, bleeding, blisters, etc.) are not normal and are a sign of a poor latch. The OP used the phrase "my nipples were starting to get damaged" in her post above. That's a sign of trouble.

While some pain is normal, some is not. It's always a good idea to get pain checked out, especially if there is nipple damage. It could be just normal getting-used-to-nursing pain, or it could be thrush, poor latch, tongue tie, Reynaud's, or something else.
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Yes, I agree, but damaged nipples (cracks, bleeding, blisters, etc.) are not normal and are a sign of a poor latch. The OP used the phrase "my nipples were starting to get damaged" in her post above. That's a sign of trouble.

While some pain is normal, some is not. It's always a good idea to get pain checked out, especially if there is nipple damage. It could be just normal getting-used-to-nursing pain, or it could be thrush, poor latch, tongue tie, Reynaud's, or something else.
Exactly. Soreness, and real PAIN are 2 different things, imo.
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mama,

my DD is almost 2 weeks old and is still having trouble latching. she won't extend her tongue past her gums (not tongue-tied anatomically) so doesn't latch well. I had to pump and bottle feed her because she wasn't expressing milk efficiently at the breast. Have seen LC 3x's and she suggested pumping to keep supply up until DD expresses well/learns/agrees to latch. DD only takes about 1/2 ounce at breast per LC.

She is still sleepy, and just starting to wake on her own to eat. It is difficult to wake a newbie if they don't want to be woken. Mine doesn't even stay up once nursing or bottle feeding even if she's down to the diaper. I am paranoid about supply dropping too - so I attempt to nurse her, then pump afterwards. If she is still fussy for more I give her expressed milk via bottle. I do suppose babies will drink out of the bottle easier then if have to nurse, but weight gain is important. My DD lost 7% that first 48 hours, but has gained now.

Keep up the hard work. Let me know if you need a shoulder for support - we can be frustrated together!
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