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Old 11-27-2012, 05:40 AM   #1
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What does a county advocate do?
Last Wednesday we had IEP meeting for my son who is hard of hearing and has ADHD. At the meeting the specialists agreed he was trying to listen but was struggling with hearing with the class size and he needs an FM system. We also talked about that deaf/HOH kids usually have seek out sensory things. So next Monday we are meeting again to plan out ways to help him.
Last night I got a call that he was not listening, and a specific intervention we talked about was not put in place for him. They want him to serve 2 days detention for not listening.
I'm going in this morning to talk to the principal but what can I do? His case worker is not at the school and only available Monday/Wednesday. Would a county advocate be helpful?

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I am not familiar with the term "county advocate" but if they work for the county I don't know how much help they would be. You can get a private advocate in most areas though. I have done IEP advocacy in the past and I would flat out tell them there will be NO detention. Should there possibly be another consequence? Maybe. The fact that this is a 6yo child with both medical and behavioral diagnosis who already has an IEP in place that they are not following Feel free to pm if I can help in any way.
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I am not familiar with the term "county advocate" but if they work for the county I don't know how much help they would be. You can get a private advocate in most areas though. I have done IEP advocacy in the past and I would flat out tell them there will be NO detention. Should there possibly be another consequence? Maybe. The fact that this is a 6yo child with both medical and behavioral diagnosis who already has an IEP in place that they are not following Feel free to pm if I can help in any way.
Thanks for the reply. I'm pregnant, emotional, and have laryngitis so can barely talk so I need to have good clear thoughts when I go in so I don't start crying and not be able to talk at all
It's a very small school/district. We are very rural. I think they really don't have experience with kids with different needs. How would I find a private advocate? The ECSE teacher has been amazingly helpful, but he doesn't qualify for time with her anymore.
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Old 11-27-2012, 06:55 AM   #4
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Just trying to get this straight... You are talking about a hard of hearing 6 year old with ADHD, and they are concerned he's not listening? Yeah, I'd say no way to a 2 day detention!! First off, being hard of hearing is going to make it hard for him to listen, add in the distractibility of ADHD, that's going to make it pretty darn hard for him. He's got an IEP? They need to figure out how to work with him, not punish him.
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If they did NOT follow his IEP, I believe it may be illegal for them to punish him in this fashion. I would go in to meet with the principal and discuss the problem, bring a copy of a IEP. Try to approach it from what can we do together to solve this problem, even though it's hard. The principal will be much more receptive if they feel you are not confrontational. What exactly was the incident?? 2 days detention seems extreme for unspecified 'not listening', KWIM? An IEP is a legally binding document, and they are required by law to use the interventions, accommodations, and modifications listed therein.
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What does a county advocate do?
Last Wednesday we had IEP meeting for my son who is hard of hearing and has ADHD. At the meeting the specialists agreed he was trying to listen but was struggling with hearing with the class size and he needs an FM system. We also talked about that deaf/HOH kids usually have seek out sensory things. So next Monday we are meeting again to plan out ways to help him.
Last night I got a call that he was not listening, and a specific intervention we talked about was not put in place for him. They want him to serve 2 days detention for not listening.
I'm going in this morning to talk to the principal but what can I do? His case worker is not at the school and only available Monday/Wednesday. Would a county advocate be helpful?
This may be off topic - but you said they talked about deaf/HOH kids seeking out sensory things. My DS has a mild hearing impairment and we've been struggling to pinpoint what his sensory stuff is all about. Do you have any reading or resources that explain this more? My son was diagnosed with SPD but after two months of OT, I felt like (while it was helpful) it didn't quite "hit the nail on the head", KWIM?

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I talked to the principal and the teachers and things seemed ok. We talked about how he's easily bored because he's not hearing the teacher or especially when students are doing presentations. He especially has a hard time coming in from recess, I don't think he hears the whistle, then is late, and gets frustrated. There are a couple other boys in his class that run around dumping things out after recess and he has followed them before, i think he gets so 'high' running around during recess with sensory stuff he has a hard time coming down. The principal said he's working in getting a para in his room during that time. We also talked about him going to the ECSE room for a few minutes if that was a hard transition time for him. So everything seemed ok.

Then he asked if he would be staying after school to clean(detention) I told him no, that I didn't agree with him being punished. He said that he didn't have regard for the teacher and basically needed to be punished to understand he needs to listen to her. I told him that we just had his meeting Wednesday, and Monday we have another to work on more ways they can help him, and I didn't think punishing him was appropriate at this time.
And that was it. It feels really unresolved. I'd almost like to just keep him home until the meeting but the principal is the only one who I am having problems with. His teacher seems open to trying ways to help him but just doesn't know what to do. There doesn't seem to be any communication between her and any of the resource people.
Thursday he has a Dr appointment in the city so he won't be going then but I'm tempted to keep him home Friday.
I know I need to be his advocate but I'm scared of them treating him poorly because I'm standing up for him.
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This may be off topic - but you said they talked about deaf/HOH kids seeking out sensory things. My DS has a mild hearing impairment and we've been struggling to pinpoint what his sensory stuff is all about. Do you have any reading or resources that explain this more? My son was diagnosed with SPD but after two months of OT, I felt like (while it was helpful) it didn't quite "hit the nail on the head", KWIM?

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My DD is hearing impaired. She has a high sensory threshold: she likes strong flavors, stuffs her mouth, likes jumping and spinning, takes a lot of pressure to feel hurt, ect. She put things in her mouth until over age 3. She's very into smelling and licking things currently. This is not unusual from other HOH children she attends school with. None of it is over the top, but it's definitely noticeable compared to hearing children.
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