Reply Hey Mom! Learn more about the Gerber Life Insurance Grow-Up Plan!
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-19-2013, 11:03 AM   #1
ez_green_cutie's Avatar
ez_green_cutie
Registered Users
seller
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Seattle
Posts: 98
My Mood:
Question Those of you who've used 'no-cry' sleep solution (Pantley)

Seeking advice on implementation. I read the book, but was never really clear about whether the prop would be able to be completely 'removed' or not. I read that now her boy removes himself and falls asleep, but I would like to get rid of nursing as the prop altogether. If I don't, my husband is never able to put 5 mo. old DD down for naps when I'm gone without an hour of crying.
I've been using the pull-out method for the last couple of days, but there again I'm still using the breast to drift off close to sleep. Those of you that have successfully done this method- are you now able to set the child down without offering a paci, nursing, bottle, etc. beforehand? I'm also trying to move full meal eating to after waking instead of before sleeping, but she's not doing well with that. I tried Baby Whisperer's pick-up, put down, but that did not work so far. I do like her aspect of having the meal after waking up, even if I don't stick to her 'schedule'.
One more question- regarding the same for naps, have you tried Pantley's method (go in there 10 minutes before waking from naps and soothe when you see child stirring) of extending naps? Since the BW's pick up, put down method isn't working, I'm afraid her shush-pat 'waking to sleep' method will not work, either.
Just looking for reassurance and experiences that either of these methods *do* work! Thanks!

Advertisement

ez_green_cutie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2013, 12:48 PM   #2
l_Kimmie_l
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Maine
Posts: 12,584
My Mood:
Re: Those of you who've used 'no-cry' sleep solution (Pantley)

Your DD is still very young to try to sleep train. We did this method at 12 months like the book sugested. It worked well for us.
l_Kimmie_l is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2013, 01:07 PM   #3
SaraElise's Avatar
SaraElise
Registered Users
seller
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 2,446
My Mood:
Re: Those of you who've used 'no-cry' sleep solution (Pantley)

I agree with the pp, I wouldn't try to sleep train at all until after 6 months, and most of those methods work best 9-12 months. All of mine started sleeping through the night between 12-18 months.

There is so much that changes in the first year in regards to sleep and development, that even if you implement these things successfully, there is a great chance you will have to do it again in a few weeks...and again...and again...until they are close to a year.

When we were weaning off nursing to sleep we would start by limiting the time, until it was only a minute, the started working on just rocking them to be enough, or rubbing their back or some sort of physical contact. But it was sloooow. I don't think this method is an overnight thing, but it works! We went from 6 month olds who had to nurse to sleep and woke several times a night only going back to sleep with nursing, to 3 kids who get excited about bed, go right to sleep and never had any more waking issues in the middle of the night.
__________________
Hi I'm Sara mommy to 4 little Mischief Makers
SaraElise is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2013, 01:30 PM   #4
ez_green_cutie's Avatar
ez_green_cutie
Registered Users
seller
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Seattle
Posts: 98
My Mood:
Re: Those of you who've used 'no-cry' sleep solution (Pantley)

Hi all, I'm not talking about training my child to sleep through the night. I'm just talking about removing the breast dependency. It's simply not possible for me to be home *every* time my child goes down for a nap.

Also, I see nowhere in Pantley's book that the method is intended only for older children. In Chapter 4, it is broken into 2 sections:
Part One: SOlutions for Newborn babies - Birth to Four Months
Part Two: SOlutions for Older Babies- Four Months to Two years

Last edited by ez_green_cutie; 01-19-2013 at 01:34 PM.
ez_green_cutie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2013, 01:35 PM   #5
l_Kimmie_l
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Maine
Posts: 12,584
My Mood:
Re: Those of you who've used 'no-cry' sleep solution (Pantley)

I was never able to do that till they weaned.
l_Kimmie_l is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2013, 03:31 PM   #6
SaraElise's Avatar
SaraElise
Registered Users
seller
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 2,446
My Mood:
Re: Those of you who've used 'no-cry' sleep solution (Pantley)

With my oldest my MIL used a pacifer with him, because he NEEDED to suck to fall asleep.

My second had to be held until he fell asleep, so this is what my SIL did while I was at work.

My third had to be rocked to sleep if she was not nursing, this is what my husband did when I wasn't home.

Never was I able to lay them down in their bed and get them to sleep there until they weaned, it required some sort of other physical contact which they then weaned off of in the same way they weaned off of nursing to sleep.
__________________
Hi I'm Sara mommy to 4 little Mischief Makers
SaraElise is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2013, 12:05 PM   #7
ez_green_cutie's Avatar
ez_green_cutie
Registered Users
seller
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Seattle
Posts: 98
My Mood:
Re: Those of you who've used 'no-cry' sleep solution (Pantley)

Thank you both for your answers. Very helpful!
ez_green_cutie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2013, 12:48 PM   #8
leadmare's Avatar
leadmare
Registered Users
seller
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: on an adventure with the one I love!
Posts: 1,197
Re: Those of you who've used 'no-cry' sleep solution (Pantley)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SaraElise View Post
With my oldest my MIL used a pacifer with him, because he NEEDED to suck to fall asleep.

My second had to be held until he fell asleep, so this is what my SIL did while I was at work.

My third had to be rocked to sleep if she was not nursing, this is what my husband did when I wasn't home.

Never was I able to lay them down in their bed and get them to sleep there until they weaned, it required some sort of other physical contact which they then weaned off of in the same way they weaned off of nursing to sleep.
I have a similar experience to this. We're not able to put our lo in her crib and have her just fall asleep... Ha ha ha...

But, if I am not around or if my husband is putting her down, some other sort of physical contact is "required". Could be rubbing her back, or rocking her, or holding her (I do these things too, sometimes, and what works has changed over time). It also helped us to identify what our goal was, i.e. did we want her to put herself to sleep (alone), or did we just want to have an hour nap to ourselves, or have my husband put her down; in which case we didn't mind helping her fall asleep.

We didn't try any of this until about 9 months. I also appreciate Pantley's book the more I looked around at other options.
leadmare is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2013, 04:17 PM   #9
cbreeding
Registered Users
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,032
Re: Those of you who've used 'no-cry' sleep solution (Pantley)

At 5mths, all 3 of mine fell asleep at the breast, but if my DH put them to sleep they were fine with the bottle. This was after a few times when they got used to his way of doing things. Sometimes they would fall asleep with the bottle, other times they would just pull off themselves.

Around 1yr with all 3 of mine, I could just take them off the breast before they fell asleep and they would just cuddle me to sleep instead of needing to suck to sleep. We bedshare so regardless of nursing or cuddling to sleep, I rolled away after they were asleep. I used the pantley's pull off method to get away when they fell asleep nursing.
cbreeding is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Copyright 2005 - 2014 Escalate Media. All Rights Reserved.