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Old 01-25-2013, 01:07 PM   #241
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Haha. Well I am on maternity leave and on partial bed rest. Maybe I'm just getting really good with Photoshop or Chinese calligraphy while I'm at it.

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Old 01-25-2013, 01:09 PM   #242
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Haha. Well I am on maternity leave and on partial bed rest. Maybe I'm just getting really good with Photoshop or Chinese calligraphy while I'm at it.
A girl's gotta have a hobby, right?
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:09 PM   #243
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Here we go:

An export form for an order of 15 diapers directly from Alva. You'll have to take my word on the quantity ordered, but even if you don't, there are other examples of export fraud displayed plainly.

NO duties or taxes are levied BECAUSE they fraudulently export by:
1) Listing an incorrect number of diapers in the package.
2) Labeling them PAPER diapers, which have a ZERO import duties into the United States.
3) Labeling them as SAMPLES.
4) Undervaluing the product at $2.00 per diaper.

Any one of these practices is export fraud. According to my sources, this is how they are selling to U.S. and Canadian citizens, to co-ops, and to resellers/relabeled brands.



Information identifying the parties involved in investigatively placing the order has been removed for their protection.
Yes, it does appear that they did a lot wrong here. Not doubt, but did you do the math? At an estimated value of $44, that is more than the value of 15 diapers at the $2.50 price that has been mentioned. I don't get it, seriously, why would they make the value more, did I miss something. I am in an alva co-op and there is no getting around duties, I have seen them on every one they have run. Can you take a picture of were it shows total due, I don't know if it would show the persons name or not from that vantage point? The lady that runs our co-op always snaps a picture of it to prove we owe it.
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:11 PM   #244
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Hahahahaaaa! I'm sure she has nothing better to do than forge a bunch of evidence showing that Alva is a shady company. Thanks though, that was definitely the most I've laughed all day.
I kind of had to laugh too but I understand.

I however have read on various threads about Alvas here on DS and elsewhere from people that have gotten them that the company DOES underestimate the value of the diaper and that they do put paper diaper on the form to get around customs.

I don't know anything about Kawaii though.
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:13 PM   #245
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I wondered the same thing about the overstated quantity vs. the understated value per item coming out to a higher total value, Samantha! Unfortunately I don't have a paper copy of this to snap a picture myself. I did ask my sources to explain why they think this would have been the strategy involved. I've never personally placed an order or participated in a co-op, though.
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Are you serious? Like she would be so out to get those poor diaper manufacturers. Do I need to give you access to my paypal to believe the addy I gave is legit too? No wonder you are such a skeptic.

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I don't know what to say about Sunpei. I don't nor have I ever had dealings with her/owned a Sunbaby. Have you met her? Does she really exist? Catfish anybody? I know Jenn from Cotton Babies exists. Same with Tereson from FuzziBunz and Sarah from SoftBums. This is a whole nother can of worms.

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I wondered the same thing about the overstated quantity vs. the understated value per item coming out to a higher total value, Samantha! Unfortunately I don't have a paper copy of this to snap a picture myself. I did ask my sources to explain why they think this would have been the strategy involved. I've never personally placed an order or participated in a co-op, though.
Weird. All of it is very weird. You've got me snooping now. I found this ( http://www.cbp.gov/linkhandler/cgov/...ctt/icp066.pdf )and what I am getting from that is by valuing them over $1 they are still subject to customs, I think. I didn't read too far past that, so someone might find something I didn't. I don't get the point really if that is the case?
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:19 PM   #248
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Do you think the Chinese diaper industry went so far as to create a WAHM persona to dupe Americans into buying their diapers?
Actually, I do suspect that about a few of their owner/CEO personalities, wild as it is!
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Do you think the Chinese diaper industry went so far as to create a WAHM persona to dupe Americans into buying their diapers?

It is definitely possible! Is she real? Maybe, but it doesn't mean she is a wahm. Or a woman. How could you own a factory and be a wahm? Seems highly unlikely to me.
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:24 PM   #250
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I *think* the Sunpei narrative is that she and her husband already owned a manufacturing facility, and she wanted to stay home with their baby. She needed to save money, discovered the North American CD industry online, and decided to produce their own in their factory to reduce costs, then chose to sell them directly to offer the benefit of the low cost to consumers in a global market.

Neat little company creation story, maybe too neat, but many CEOs have neat little packaged stories like this; it's all part of sympathetic marketing. I don't know anything about Sunpei, but there is another CEO whose existence I definitely doubt.

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