2yo DD Touching Lady Parts. .

[Amjohnstone32]

Originally Posted by 4boys1girlforme I suppose not necessary but entirely truthful. I would not have participated in this thread if I had known what your "real" beliefs were and the path that would be taken.

FWIW, I am not the one who turned this into a religious debate. And the fact that you had to lash out at the original poster was completely unnecessary.

I never said anything that I didn't believe or that was twisted. And the fact that you wouldn't have joined the conversation because of what I believe, is ridiculous.

I'm sorry mama, but your well thought out rude nature is not appreciated here.

[4boys1girlforme]

Originally Posted by Amjohnstone32 FWIW, I am not the one who turned this into a religious debate. And the fact that you had to lash out at the original poster was completely unnecessary. I never said anything that I didn't believe or that was twisted. And the fact that you wouldn't have joined the conversation because of what I believe, is ridiculous. I'm sorry mama, but your well thought out rude nature is not appreciated here.

Am I confused- aren't you the OP? Are you referring to yourself in the third person?

From the shift your posting has taken throughout this thread- it doesn't sound to me like you were originally conflicted in how you wanted to parent in this specific circumstance- I think this was an inflammatory trolling thread...

What you refer to as rude= truthful. The good thing is that I don't need you to appreciate me

[Amjohnstone32]

I was absolutely conflicted! Why would I even post something if I was not?


Inflammatory trolling thread? I think I have more important things to do in my life then come up with some crap lie to have some adult conversation in my life.

[soonerfan]

Originally Posted by Amjohnstone32 I don't think it is a falsity in the design. When a girl gets her period, It makes her more aware of her body, it causes her to mature and have to take care of herself. If you look back at biblical times, actually women married much earlier than they do in modern days. 11-13, these were normal ages to have a husband. I have to say that I am sorry because me talking about mockery against what I believe, Within that I have mocked the fact that you don't. So, honestly, I hope that you can forgive me for that. I just find it so hard to understand when people don't acknowledge the goodness of our Creator. Because he has been an amazing part of my life personally. I hope and pray that anyone who doesn't know him or feel him will be able to experience the same love that I have for him. I am sure there are situations in all of our lives that have caused us to believe what we believe, and what we don't. But honestly we have to chalk it up to our past and the way that we were raised. What we've put on ourselves, and what others have put on us. And I do agree, standing up for what you believe in, and mockery are not the same. But especially when you are reading things that are in text, and not face-to-face, Things can get really distorted.

I don't need or want an all-powerful deity in my life who allows horrible things to happen to his creations. I don't believe there is a god, but in all honesty, even if I had proof there were, I would not praise him (or her) or find him worthy of mention.

Originally Posted by s@hmommy From the way you post was written it did not much seem like a question, more like a jab. We were discussing something that is within human control, not a natural bodily function. I am pretty certain more than one pp explained much better than I can why we believe what we do about the topic, I don't feel the need to repeat it. You may look at my post history, I have no problem explaining, but I won't continue a conversation that goes in circles, it seems pointless.

Well, it was a question. It makes as much sense as the other to me. They are both natural, normal events tied to hormones.

Originally Posted by Amjohnstone32 I think comes down to a heart issue. If you feel convicted about masturbating then that's your issue. If you feel convicted about having a glass of alcohol then that's your issue some people can do it some people cannot it just depends on where it takes you in your mind. If you feel that by doing something you're not honoring God and that is your own conviction. We are individuals with different convictions. Don't judge me because I sin differently then you do. It's your personal relationship with God. You have to answer to him at the end of the day, not me.

Originally Posted by JennTheMomma The bolded is something I don't get. Don't your children also have a personal relationship with God? If you're personally not comfy with masturbating, but they are, isn't it up to them and God and really not your business to tell them it's wrong or a sin?

This is what I was going to ask. How can you impose your personal convictions (those things you must be called to believe because they aren't spelled out) on your kids?

Originally Posted by Amjohnstone32 Well this whole post was about my daughter, she's two. I think at her age the understanding of what is a sin and what is not is not even existent. I think she understands the moral concept of being good or being bad. But at this stage it's not about sexuality, it's about curiosity. As a parent when my kids get older, I can't tell them to masturbate or not. I can share with them what my beliefs are, and if they choose to be reverent to what I believe, then fine. But I think there comes an age of accountability when God intervenes and convicts them if they're doing something that's dishonoring to Him. But like I said it's different for everyone. What is a struggle for you might not be a struggle for me. But things like this, alcohol, smoking… These are all gray areas. This is where it comes down to living by the Spirit. And it really depends on where you are in your walk with God. Take a teenage boy for example. It's natural for him once he hits puberty, to have elevated hormones and be horny. Of course in the midst of all that he's doing whatever feels good. But say that as he gets older he has to look at ****ography in order to be able to get aroused to masturbate. Eventually he's going to come to a point where he's going to know that it's wrong. It's not the action in itself, it's where your mind goes while doing it. The Bible says that a man that even looks upon a woman with lust, Has already committed adultery with her in his heart. So say this boy comes to the knowledge of what God thinks is right and wrong. If masturbation leads him to think about other women, He presumably would stop doing it so he could remain pure for the sake of his relationship with God in the sake of his relationship with his future wife. I hope that makes sense.

I think it is pretty misleading to start a post on this topic, say you feel chastised because people disagree with your approach that tells your child ladies do not masturbate, get riled up and insist you only want your kids to touch their privates in private and you AGREE with all of the people who "attacked" you, and then finally change your entire story and come out with religious guns blazing about masturbation being a sin.

Originally Posted by 4boys1girlforme Well this thread has taken a wide turn from what was presented in the OP- even after the backpeddling edit.

Originally Posted by 4boys1girlforme I suppose not necessary but entirely truthful. I would not have participated in this thread if I had known what your "real" beliefs were and the path that would be taken.

Me, neither.

[soonerfan]

Originally Posted by Amjohnstone32 I am just curious as to the normalcy of this. She doesn't when she gets tired. And has been doing it since she was about 1 1/2. I told her no, and say that is something that ladies don't do. And of course her being two, she throws a bug fat fit. I just need some direction as far as what has worked for other people, and maybe what to say? Or do for that matter. EDIT: I tell her ladies don't do that in public, it's a private thing. I just wanted advice. Not "shame on you" for wondering what to do.

Originally Posted by Amjohnstone32 I agree that ladies and gentlemen both do it! But ladies don't do it in front of everyone. I wasn't trying to shame the act, I have told her to do it in private. But she continues to do so in certain situations. Obviously I'm not perfect, which is why I even asked the question and brought the topic up. I was asking for help, not condemnation I know that it is perfectly natural, God created those areas as a gift to enjoy. I just wanted some advice as far as how to teach what is right and what is wrong. Thanks everyone.

Originally Posted by Amjohnstone32 Honestly, I did feel it. But I suppose I have to blame myself, for not properly articulating my first and original post, It's hard to do that sometimes when you have two little ones running around! But nonetheless a question is a question. I would never force something on my child, unless it honestly put them in danger. I never meant for this thread to start arguments, but I think it's good to know what truly is healthy when it comes to little ones doing things like this. I as well am so thankful that if my first post truly was meant to be what was said, That all of these women to stand up for the sake of a young child, whether it is their own or not. But sadly, in some cases you can take the horse to the water but you can't make it drink. Not talking about the children, but the mothers. So I guess the ending outcome is that everyone would learn a lesson from this thread entirely.

This is how you originally mentioned the issue.

[kattayanna_mom]

Originally Posted by eliz7 When I started masturbating at 7 I didn't even know what sex was. I continued masturbating because it felt good. I never had impure thoughts. I would watch inspector gadget and just do it. Now as a married woman I'm lucky to not feel the need very often but I still don't think about man or sex for that matter. Maybe I'm weird?

Exactly I remember humping my blanket at nap time in Kindergarten to go to sleep it was not sexual at all.

[kattayanna_mom]

I have 2 teen daughters I have never discouraged them from exploring their bodies and i never will,I don't know if they masturbate or not nor do I care. I look at it like this God gave them genitals and hands long enough to reach it and if it was not suppose to feel good it would not.

[eliz7]

Originally Posted by kattayanna_mom Exactly I remember humping my blanket at nap time in Kindergarten to go to sleep it was not sexual at all.

Thank you!!! I'm so glad to not be alone in my masturbating filled childhood

[lilannies mama]

Oh my goodness this thread went crazy didn't it? Op do not even worry anymore what everyone else says cause A. You never asked for any religious input or anything along those lines. B. she's 2 she's an innocent child & what she's doing she has no clue.. I mean she's not being sexual she's 2 she don't know how to be. Mine is doing it to ecspecially at night. She will either grow out of it or not if she doesn't we will handle it then my mom even said I did it some & she made a deal of it taking me to dr & things & I got worse & felt like I couldn't talk to her & as I grew older I didn't so you know your little girl is just that YOUR little girl don't let anyone tell you your bad your against God or whatever else some o the posters are saying. You handle it how you see fit. Your so not alone I'm with you there ill be glad to pm with you so no more flames cause this is nonsense. I don't see how any of this makes you bad at all. & guess what no matter how much they want to say about religion or whatever it won't involve them in the end it will be between you & god I doubt he will take time to ask one of these posters if because you didn't make your baby feel bad by punishing her for this whether to let you through those golden gates! YOUR A GREAT MOM don't be told otherwise. Ok sorry for the rant it upsets me cause your child is 2 not 22. She has no idea.& children are angels made by god. Idk just don't understand. Anyways feel free to pm sometime I may not check back this thread I get to ill but on your side op