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Old 08-29-2006, 11:53 AM   #1
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OK it is getting close to that time of year again, and my wheels have been churning on this one. I have never been one to get the flu vax on a reg basis, (I think I have gotten it 2x as far as I know). Anyway, I know many of you don't vax or delay vaxing but we do vax. Anyway, I am just wondering since this year my DD will be in kindergarten and I will have a newborn at home, do you think if I get the flu vax and not the baby I can pass the antibodies on to her in BM? I mean I know BM has antibodies, but does it work that way. I would prefer not to have the baby get the vax, but I want us to be protected since I know my ODD will be bringing home lots of "goodies" from school. (Please don't bash me for our vaxing decision)

If you have any knowledge to share on this subject please do, I don't want to be standing in front of the dr when he asks me if I want the vax and not have made an informed decision. Thanks

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Old 08-29-2006, 12:06 PM   #2
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From what I understand, the nasal spray flu vax is LIVE and so you can shed live virus for up to 2 weeks after getting that one. That would probably be VERY dangerous with a new baby, so avoid that one.

I have no idea about the shots giving immunity via bm (I only know they are one of the few US vax's that still have a TON of thimerosal in them, which is a mercury compound).

I'll go hunting and see what I can find for ya!
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Old 08-29-2006, 12:27 PM   #3
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That would be awesome, I don't really know where to look for that kind of info.
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I got the flu when dd was only a few weeks old. By the time that she started to get sick, she was already getting antibodies from my milk. Technically she had the flu but never ran a fever, only had a little bit of a runny nose. If your odd brings home a strain of the flu that you have already had, your baby shouldn't get it because of the antibodies in BM. If you do get a flu shot, be sure to ask for one for pregnant and nursing women because they have little to no mercury in them.
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Old 08-29-2006, 12:31 PM   #5
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Can the mercury pass in BM. that is one of the reasons I don't want baby to get the vax (I know why worry when you are getting other vaxs right), but I also don't think the baby should be subjected to a vax that often makes people slightly sick, like Flu vaxs tend to do.
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Can the mercury pass in BM. that is one of the reasons I don't want baby to get the vax (I know why worry when you are getting other vaxs right), but I also don't think the baby should be subjected to a vax that often makes people slightly sick, like Flu vaxs tend to do.
Yes it can as well as pass onto an unborn baby so a big yes!

My oldest started school yesterday and it never fails that when my kids go to school they bring stuff home to us and we all spend the first 2 months sick, all 6 of us

This year we are NOT getting sick as we are all taking GSE for maintainance The boys will get theirs in orange juice and the rest of us get ours in pill form. Everyday so there is our flu, cold and virus shot
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Old 08-29-2006, 01:23 PM   #7
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As far as mercury in the flu vax, here is the info on per the FDA:

Influenza Fluzone (AP) 0.01% (12.5 g/0.25 mL dose, 25 g/0.5 mL dose)2
Fluzone (AP)3(no thimerosal) Free as of 12/23/2004
Fluvirin (Chiron/Evans) 0.01% (25 g/0.5 mL dose)
Fluvirin (Chiron/Evans)(Preservative Free) Trace (<1ug Hg/0.5mL dose) as of09/28/01

That means that only Fluzone made by Aventis Pasteur has absolutely NO thimerosal in it, all the other ones do.

And I found that YES, mercury can pass both through breastmilk AND across the placenta (so take care if getting the flu shot while pregnant).
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Yes it can as well as pass onto an unborn baby so a big yes!

My oldest started school yesterday and it never fails that when my kids go to school they bring stuff home to us and we all spend the first 2 months sick, all 6 of us

This year we are NOT getting sick as we are all taking GSE for maintainance The boys will get theirs in orange juice and the rest of us get ours in pill form. Everyday so there is our flu, cold and virus shot
OH that is a good idea, how do you put it in the OJ, can you get it in liquid and pill form. I have been hearing so many good things about GSE, that is grapefruit seed extract right? Maybe I can avoid the flu shot all together, I really don't want to get it anyway, who really want to get a shot.
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Ok, sorry to thread hijack, but Julesmom23girls when is your newest due and how old will he/she be at the time that you would get the shot? (I am PG w/#3 and although I am at HUGE risk because of severe asthma I can never find anyone who will give me a shot when I am pregnant). This is the third time I'll try in the past four years. My whole family got one last year and I think my son was four or five months old at the time...the flu would probably at the very least hospitalize him or worse as his asthma needs supervision on a daily basis even when he's not sick. So for me the shot itself is of minute consequence as compared to getting the actual flu.......I've had it once since I've been married and it was SCARY. But if anyone knows where PG people can get the shot please let me know....I've tried all my Dr's but only certain ones carry it and they don't always have enough (even my asthma specialist). I've also tried clinics and drugstores but they will only give it non-pregnant people so I'm kinda stuck. It's also hard because I teach and can't even begin to count how many precious darlings will bring it into my classroom this year for me to be exposed to. Thanks to anyone who can help!
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Your OB should have it. If not a high risk OB or asthma doc should have both versions too.

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Ok, sorry to thread hijack, but Julesmom23girls when is your newest due and how old will he/she be at the time that you would get the shot? (I am PG w/#3 and although I am at HUGE risk because of severe asthma I can never find anyone who will give me a shot when I am pregnant). This is the third time I'll try in the past four years. My whole family got one last year and I think my son was four or five months old at the time...the flu would probably at the very least hospitalize him or worse as his asthma needs supervision on a daily basis even when he's not sick. So for me the shot itself is of minute consequence as compared to getting the actual flu.......I've had it once since I've been married and it was SCARY. But if anyone knows where PG people can get the shot please let me know....I've tried all my Dr's but only certain ones carry it and they don't always have enough (even my asthma specialist). I've also tried clinics and drugstores but they will only give it non-pregnant people so I'm kinda stuck. It's also hard because I teach and can't even begin to count how many precious darlings will bring it into my classroom this year for me to be exposed to. Thanks to anyone who can help!
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